--- title: Podcast description: Ten2Two’s Talking SME podcast, gives you inside access to the conversations that are taking place in SME's to get insights, learnings and advice from a broad range of business leaders. --- [![logo](https://www.ten2two.org/hubfs/Ten2two_2023/Images/General/logo.svg)](https://www.ten2two.org/?hsLang=en) - [Why Us](https://www.ten2two.org/why-us) - [Our Team](https://www.ten2two.org/why-us#team) - [Our Story](https://www.ten2two.org/why-us#story) - [B-Corp](https://www.ten2two.org/a-commitment-to-purpose-beyond-profit) - [Employers](https://www.ten2two.org/employers) - [Flexible Options](https://www.ten2two.org/flexible-options) - [Business leaders](https://www.ten2two.org/employers/perfect-partner-for-business-leaders) - [HR Teams](https://www.ten2two.org/employers/complementary-fit-for-hr-teams) - [Process & Fees](https://www.ten2two.org/employers/spec-interview-appoint) - [Client Charter](https://www.ten2two.org/employers/complementary-fit-for-hr-teams#client) - [Other Services](https://www.ten2two.org/employers/flexibility-advisory-consulting) - [Candidates](https://www.ten2two.org/candidates) - [Jobs](https://www.ten2two.org/jobs) - [Register](https://jobs.ten2two.org/registration.aspx) - [Flexible Options](https://www.ten2two.org/flexible-options#flexible-formats) - [Career Support](https://www.ten2two.org/products) - [Testimonials](https://www.ten2two.org#story) - [Candidate](https://www.ten2two.org/testimonial/candidates) - [Employers](https://www.ten2two.org/testimonial/employers) - [Career Support](https://www.ten2two.org/products) - [CV Support](https://www.ten2two.org/cv-support) - [Interview Practice & Coaching](https://www.ten2two.org/interview-support) - [1:1 Career Support](https://www.ten2two.org/career-support-ten2two) - [1:1 Student Support](https://www.ten2two.org/student-support) - [Resources](https://www.ten2two.org/resources) - [Candidate blog](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/candidates#tags) - [Employer blog](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/employers#tags) - [Webinars](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/webinars#tags) - [Podcasts](https://www.ten2two.org/podcast) - [Briefs](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/briefs#tags) - [Contact Us](https://www.ten2two.org/contact) - [Why Us](https://www.ten2two.org/why-us) - [Our Team](https://www.ten2two.org/why-us#team) - [Our Story](https://www.ten2two.org/why-us#story) - [B-Corp](https://www.ten2two.org/a-commitment-to-purpose-beyond-profit) - [Employers](https://www.ten2two.org/employers) - [Flexible Options](https://www.ten2two.org/flexible-options) - [Business leaders](https://www.ten2two.org/employers/perfect-partner-for-business-leaders) - [HR Teams](https://www.ten2two.org/employers/complementary-fit-for-hr-teams) - [Process & Fees](https://www.ten2two.org/employers/spec-interview-appoint) - [Client Charter](https://www.ten2two.org/employers/complementary-fit-for-hr-teams#client) - [Other Services](https://www.ten2two.org/employers/flexibility-advisory-consulting) - [Candidates](https://www.ten2two.org/candidates) - [Jobs](https://www.ten2two.org/jobs) - [Register](https://jobs.ten2two.org/registration.aspx) - [Flexible Options](https://www.ten2two.org/flexible-options#flexible-formats) - [Career Support](https://www.ten2two.org/products) - [Testimonials](https://www.ten2two.org#story) - [Candidate](https://www.ten2two.org/testimonial/candidates) - [Employers](https://www.ten2two.org/testimonial/employers) - [Career Support](https://www.ten2two.org/products) - [CV Support](https://www.ten2two.org/cv-support) - [Interview Practice & Coaching](https://www.ten2two.org/interview-support) - [1:1 Career Support](https://www.ten2two.org/career-support-ten2two) - [1:1 Student Support](https://www.ten2two.org/student-support) - [Resources](https://www.ten2two.org/resources) - [Candidate blog](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/candidates#tags) - [Employer blog](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/employers#tags) - [Webinars](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/webinars#tags) - [Podcasts](https://www.ten2two.org/podcast) - [Briefs](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/briefs#tags) - [Contact Us](https://www.ten2two.org/contact) [Register](https://jobs.ten2two.org/members.aspx) [Sign in](https://jobs.ten2two.org/registration.aspx) ![Search](https://www.ten2two.org/hubfs/25625369/Ten2two_2023/Images/General/search.png) [Sign in](https://jobs.ten2two.org/registration.aspx) [Register](https://jobs.ten2two.org/members.aspx) × # Talking SME with Ten2Two ... eavesdropping on the experts   Ten2Two works with business large and small across all sectors and industries and has fascinating conversations every day about how businesses are adapting and leading in these changing and uncertain times. Our podcast series, Talking SME, allows you join us for these conversations to get insights, learnings and advice from a broad range of business leaders. In each episode our guest talks about a subject close to their heart and share their personal insights for your benefit. Give yourself a short break to hear from experts in their fields to help you in yours.            [Paul Mann](https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulmann1/), founder of Pathmaker Advisory cuts through the noise around AI and gets straight to what matters for business owners and leaders in our latest episode - [AI for Business: Stop Kicking the Can — Your Practical Guide to Getting Started](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/talking-sme-podcast-ai-for-business?hsLang=en) [Sarah Whale](https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahwhalefcca/), Founder of Profit Impact knows that most businesses want to do the right thing — build responsibly, think long-term, and create real impact — but also knows when you’re busy, ustainability can sometimes feel like a luxury rather than a necessity.  Listen to her great advice - [Profit beyond Purpose](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/talking-sme-podcast-purpose-beyond-profit-ten2two?hsLang=en). The latest episode of Talking SME puts our MD Deborah O'Sullivan in front of the mic, listen to ['Flexible Working - Reviewing 18 years of change'](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/talking-sme-podcast-flexible-working-reviewing-18-years-of-change?hsLang=en) ['Work Smarter, Not Longer – The Case for a 4-Day Week'](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/work-smarter-not-longer-the-case-for-a-4-day-week?hsLang=en) features Florence Cassell, Founder and Creative Director of Studio Floc, who was an early adopter of the 4 day week Jenny Copeland, Behavioural Change Leader and Executive Coach, joined us to discuss the definition of culture and how you promote what you permit in ['The Culture Factor – What Makes a Great Workplace?'](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/the-culture-factor-what-makes-a-great-workplace?hsLang=en) ['HR Challenges and Solutions: Insights for Growing SME's'](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/talking-sme-podcast-hr-challenges-and-solutions-insights-for-growing-smes?hsLang=en) features Ruth George, HR Consultant and Herts CIPD Chair, who discusses the challenges HR can pose for a SME ## Resources [![A candidate job searching on a laptop for part time or flexible work](https://www.ten2two.org/hubfs/Practicals%20of%20job%20searching%20-%20blog%20image-1.png)](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/practical-tips-for-job-searching?hsLang=en) ##### [Practical Tips for Job Searching](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/practical-tips-for-job-searching?hsLang=en) Job searching can feel like a job in itself – particularly if it's been a while since you last looked for a... [Candidates](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/candidates?hsLang=en) 14 mins [Read more](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/practical-tips-for-job-searching?hsLang=en) [![Get in the Right Mindset for your Job Search](https://www.ten2two.org/hubfs/Get%20in%20the%20Right%20Mindset%20for%20your%20Job%20Search.png)](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/get-in-the-right-mindset-for-your-job-search?hsLang=en) ##### [Get in the Right Mindset for your Job Search](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/get-in-the-right-mindset-for-your-job-search?hsLang=en) The job search process can be an emotional rollercoaster. You can feel lost, overwhelmed and demotivated.... [Candidates](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/candidates?hsLang=en) [Webinars](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/webinars?hsLang=en) 1 mins [Read more](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/get-in-the-right-mindset-for-your-job-search?hsLang=en) [![](https://www.ten2two.org/hubfs/Copy%20of%20finding%20career%20direction%20webinar%20blog.png)](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/is-your-linkedin-profile-quietly-holding-you-back?hsLang=en) ##### [Is Your LinkedIn Profile Quietly Holding You Back?](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/is-your-linkedin-profile-quietly-holding-you-back?hsLang=en) When was the last time you properly reviewed your LinkedIn profile? [Candidates](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/candidates?hsLang=en) [blog](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/blog?hsLang=en) 3 mins [Read more](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/is-your-linkedin-profile-quietly-holding-you-back?hsLang=en) [![](https://www.ten2two.org/hubfs/Grow%20your%20business%20with%20part%20time%20professional-2.png)](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/growing-your-business-cautiously-using-part-time-professionals?hsLang=en) ##### [Growing Your Business Cautiously Using Part-Time...](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/growing-your-business-cautiously-using-part-time-professionals?hsLang=en) In our last blog of the year we’re wondering if the worrying messages from the recent budget statement are... [Employers](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/tag/employers?hsLang=en) 3 mins [Read more](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/growing-your-business-cautiously-using-part-time-professionals?hsLang=en) [![](https://www.ten2two.org/hubfs/Accessing%20hard%20to%20reach%20candidates.png)](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/accessing-hard-to-reach-candidates?hsLang=en) ##### [Accessing Hard to Reach Candidates](https://www.ten2two.org/resources/accessing-hard-to-reach-candidates?hsLang=en) Scanning the recent employment news, there was an interesting [ONS Labour Market Overview](https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/uklabourmarket/november2022) last week.... 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